Craps 6 And 8 Strategy
If you try this pattern in the casino and a 7 rolls when you try to establish your DC bet you're going to lose $75 - $100. So this pattern could work and you will slowly win, or this pattern could fail and drain your entire $300 bankroll in 6 rolls of the dice. There is a wealth of information about strategies on this site. Update: Hello, I just wanted to share a strategy I use at the casino when playing craps.Bank roll $300.00.Shooting from table position 8 (Right side of stick man) using the '4/4 top, 2/2 facing me' set.
What is the 'Best' Progression for You? (Part Three of Three)
This is the third of three installments looking at betting progression strategies. To get the most of this article make sure you have read Part 1 and Part 2 in our series on progression betting.
So far we have looked at three different strategies designed to put more money on the table – and therefore win more money at the table. We looked at the very simple, yet very powerful up-a-unit progression. This progression adds one unit to the bet each time the number hits. We also looked at the press-and-pull (and the pull-and-press variant). The press-and-pull progression alternates between pressing the place bet when the number hits and pulling the profits when it hits, whereas the pull-and-press pulls one hit of profit first and then alternates between pressing and pulling.
All of these progressions minimize risk but also provide a powerful method to maximize your profits in an easy to manage way. There are times when you may want to be more aggressive. Such a situation could be when a thrower has surpassed twenty throws without a seven-out. By now you have a tidy sum in profits locked up in your chip rail. You are betting the casinos money. It is time to go for the gold.
What do you do? The press-and-pull progression is powerful, but another progression is even more powerful, though a little more difficult to manage. By increasing your bet by one half the current bet, you average more money on the table – and more profits when the numbers hit. The math required to calculate the increase can cause you to lose focus while shooting, so I do not recommend this if you are shooting. Use it on another careful shooter, or when you already have a large profit from the current shooter.
The tables that follow compare several progressions for a $10 player.
- Up-a-minimum-unit increases the bet by $6 each time the number hits.
- Up-a-betting-unit increases the bet by the starting bet size ($12) each time the number hits.
- Press-and-pull alternates pressing the bet with pulling the profits.
- Press-1/2-the-bet increases the bet by one-half the current bet each time the number hits.
Six and Eight | |||||||||||||
Unit Size | 10 | Up a min. unit | Up a betting unit | Press and Pull | Press 1/2 the Bet | ||||||||
Hit # | Bet | Win | Total | Bet | Win | Total | Bet | Win | Total | Bet | Win | Total | |
0 | 12 | -12 | 12 | -12 | 12 | -12 | 12 | -12 | |||||
1 | 18 | 8 | -4 | 24 | 2 | -10 | 24 | 4 | -8 | 18 | 8 | -4 | |
2 | 24 | 15 | 11 | 36 | 16 | 6 | 24 | 28 | 20 | 30 | 9 | 5 | |
3 | 30 | 22 | 33 | 48 | 30 | 36 | 48 | 8 | 28 | 48 | 17 | 22 | |
4 | 36 | 29 | 62 | 60 | 44 | 80 | 48 | 56 | 84 | 72 | 32 | 54 | |
5 | 42 | 36 | 98 | 72 | 58 | 138 | 96 | 16 | 100 | 108 | 48 | 102 | |
6 | 48 | 43 | 141 | 84 | 72 | 210 | 96 | 112 | 212 | 162 | 72 | 174 | |
7 | 54 | 50 | 191 | 96 | 86 | 296 | 192 | 32 | 244 | 246 | 105 | 279 | |
8 | 60 | 57 | 248 | 108 | 100 | 396 | 192 | 224 | 468 | 372 | 161 | 440 | |
9 | 66 | 64 | 312 | 120 | 114 | 510 | 384 | 64 | 532 | 558 | 248 | 688 | |
10 | 72 | 71 | 383 | 132 | 128 | 638 | 384 | 448 | 980 | 840 | 369 | 1057 | |
11 | 78 | 78 | 461 | 144 | 142 | 780 | 768 | 128 | 1108 | 1260 | 560 | 1617 | |
12 | 84 | 85 | 546 | 156 | 156 | 936 | 768 | 896 | 2004 | 1890 | 840 | 2457 |
As you can see from the charts, pressing half your bet will win you the most money if you hit a number more than eight times. The more times beyond this that you hit a number the more quickly this method pays off compared to the others. But, also notice that at seven or fewer hits, the up-a-betting-unit out performs it. That is one reason why you may want to save the press-a-half-bet strategy until you are well into a roll and have hit numbers many times. That is where the power of this strategy pays off.
I would like to look at one final progression – actually a progression-regression. The 6/8 Progression-regression has been around for a long time. People who become proficient at the 3V set – the set that has 6’s and 8’s all the way around – will tend to hit more 6’s and 8’s than normal. To capitalize on this ability, the 6/8 progression-regression strategy was developed.
In that betting scheme, the 6 and 8 are both placed for the player’s betting unit. After one hit of either the 6 or 8, both the 6 and 8 are increased to 1.5 times the original bet. The next time a 6 or 8 hits, collect the profit. On the third hit of a 6 or 8, both the 6 and 8 are increased to 2.5 times the original bet. The fourth time a 6 or 8 hits, collect the profit. On the fifth hit, the 6 and 8 are increased to 4 times the original bet.
The sixth time the 6 or 8 hits completes the progression. You collect the profits and regress the 6 and 8 back to the original amount. Once you have regressed your bets, you have won a tidy sum. You then start the progression all over again.
A more aggressive version of the 6/8 progression-regression was also developed. You start with the second level of 1.5 times your betting unit and complete the series in five hits rather than six, collecting a bit more in the process.
Here are the tables for comparison:
Six and Eight | ||||||||||||||
Unit Size | 10 | Up a min. unit | 6/8 Progress/Regress (Std) | 6/8 Prog/Regr (Aggressive) | ||||||||||
Hit # | Bet | Win | Total | Bet | Win | Give | Coll. | Total | Bet | Win | Give | Coll. | Total | |
0 | 12 | -12 | 12 | 24 | -24 | 18 | 36 | -36 | ||||||
1 | 12 | 8 | -4 | 18 | 14 | 2 | -22 | 30 | 21 | 3 | -39 | |||
2 | 18 | 15 | 11 | 18 | 21 | 21 | -1 | 30 | 35 | 35 | -4 | |||
3 | 24 | 22 | 33 | 30 | 21 | 3 | -4 | 48 | 35 | 1 | -5 | |||
4 | 30 | 29 | 62 | 30 | 35 | 35 | 31 | 48 | 56 | 56 | 51 | |||
5 | 36 | 36 | 98 | 48 | 35 | 1 | 30 | 18 | 56 | 116 | 167 | |||
6 | 42 | 43 | 141 | 12 | 56 | 128 | 158 | 30 | 21 | 3 | 164 | |||
7 | 48 | 50 | 191 | 18 | 14 | 2 | 160 | 30 | 35 | 35 | 199 | |||
8 | 54 | 57 | 248 | 18 | 21 | 21 | 181 | 48 | 35 | 1 | 198 | |||
9 | 60 | 64 | 312 | 30 | 21 | 3 | 178 | 48 | 56 | 56 | 254 | |||
10 | 66 | 71 | 383 | 30 | 35 | 35 | 213 | 18 | 56 | 116 | 370 | |||
11 | 72 | 78 | 461 | 48 | 35 | 1 | 212 | 30 | 21 | 3 | 367 | |||
12 | 78 | 85 | 546 | 12 | 56 | 128 | 340 | 30 | 35 | 35 | 402 |
Craps 6 And 8 Strategy
Notice that with the 6/8 progression-regression you are actually losing money until the fifth hit. However, since a hit on the 6 or 8 counts, you are likely to get more hits than on any one number as in the up-a-unit strategy. With the 6/8 strategy you are investing a lot of your up front wins to finance a big win a little later on. It also requires only six total hits of the 6 and 8 for the big win.
We have reviewed the simple and powerful up-a-unit, the slightly more powerful press-and-pull, the still more powerful press-1/2-bet, and 6/8 progression-regression strategies. The first two strategies are good in virtually all situations. The press-1/2-bet strategy is best used after having already collected on several hits. The 6/8 strategy is designed to give you a rush when you complete it.
You can choose whatever strategy you like when betting your money at the craps tables. I, however, prefer the less exciting but much steadier up-a-unit strategy when risking my hard-earned wagering capital.
Well, that is all for this time. But remember, if you lend someone $20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it.
Stickman
How to win at Craps with Place Bets on 6 & 8 only.
Today we continuing our recent series on craps betting strategies. We’ve already talked about two unique systems, or betting patterns, known as the 3 Point Molly and the Iron Cross. This time we’ll take a look at a cheaper craps system that offers similar odds of winning.
In short, the object is to set equal wagers on Place 6 and Place 8. At a table with $5 minimums, it will cost as little as $12 to set up ($6 per bet). You won’t be tossing out another $12 per roll, either. Best of all, it offers a house edge of just 1.52%; worse than strategy-based blackjack, but far better than roulette, and similar to baccarat.
That is, of course, the simple explanation. Keep reading to find out why this is one of the better ways to safely manage your bankroll, and ensure maximum entertainment for your wagering dollars.
How to Win at Craps with Place Bets on 6 & 8
Place Bets are wagers that can be made on a specific number. They’re often referred to as Point or Box numbers, because they’re the only numbers that can be established as a point on the shooter’s come out roll. They include 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10.
The odds associated with each Place Bet number varies. The following chart shows the true odds, payout, and resulting house edge for each. Examine closely, and you’ll see why Place Bets on 6 and 8 are the only viable options for this craps betting strategy.
Roll | True Odds | Payout | House Edge |
4 | 2-to-1 | 9-to-5 | 6.67% |
5 | 3-to-2 | 7-to-5 | 4.00% |
6 | 6-to-5 | 7-to-6 | 1.52% |
8 | 6-to-5 | 7-to-6 | 1.52% |
9 | 3-to-2 | 7-to-5 | 4.00% |
10 | 2-to-1 | 9-to-5 | 6.67% |
Lowest House Edge on 6 and 8
Because the 6 and 8 payout closest to the true odds, they offer the lowest house edge of 1.52% All other Place Bets present terrible odds of 4% to 6.67%. As every gambler knows, the lower the edge, the better the chance of winning.
6-Unit Increments Only!
The chart also shows why we must place these wagers in increments of $6. Place Bets on 6 and 8 pay 7-to-6, meaning for every 6 units wagered, a win will pay 7 units. If you were to place a $5 wager, you would get only $5 in return since the boxman rounds payouts to the nearest dollar. Suffice to say, $6 bets are critical to the value of this strategy.
Place Bets Ride It Out
Unlike Field Bets, which last for a single roll, Place Bets remain on the table until the shooter craps out (rolls a 7). If the shooter rolls a 3, a 9, a 5, another 3, a 12, a 4, a pair of 10s and then finally rolls an 8, you still win. All of those previous rolls mean nothing. Your bet is never removed unless a 7 rolls, in which case you lose them both.
Even when you win on 6 or 8, the bet stays in play. You will receive the winnings, but the bet doesn’t come down until a 7 is rolled, or you tell the boxman to remove it (your bet is returned).
Odds of Crapping Out
Last but not least, let’s take a look at the odds of rolling a 6 or 8, versus crapping out with a 7.
- 6: The odds of rolling a 6 are 13.89%
- 7: The odds of rolling a 7 are 16.67%
- 8: The odds of rolling an 8 are 13.89%
Technically, the 7 has the higher odds of rolling. However, since you’re betting on 6 and 8, you combine these odds for a 27.78% chance of winning, versus 16.67% chance of losing. That leaves a 55.55% chance of any other number rolling (i.e. nothing happens).
While that sounds like incredible odds, let’s remember each win brings you a 7-unit payout, while each loss results in a 12-unit decline. Thus, all in all, you have a 1.52% house edge to compete with, which comes out to a negative expectation of $1.52 per $100, or a loss of $0.18 per $12.
As always, the casino has the advantage, so you can’t expect every time that you’ll win at craps with Place Bets on 6 and 8. But expecting to lose $0.18 each time the shooter craps out offers a whole lot of entertainment value on a budget bankroll. With a little luck and responsibility on your part (i.e. knowing when to walk away), you just might come away with some extra change in your pocket!
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